LOL, yes I've heard that one too. heheheee

we've been good today too. Kids a bit of a pain at tea time though, then I thought I might throttle one of them. yay DP is home, so I've snuck off to the computer and left him to do the nighttime routine.

Hay liljay - re the ripping the heads off - Man, can I relate to that or what !!! And what's more, it would give me the greatest of pleasure ! This GRUMPY leaves my worst PMT for DEAD !

And as for the bumper sticker - in a perfect world you chose your own. In this less than perfect world, your kids do it for you, yes indeedy !

That's if you adhere to lessons learnt from your own parents, and don't just refuse to move from the family home (as is the situation with my Mother). Lessons to be learnt for you. Mistakes NOT to be repeated !

Whinge, whinge, growl, growl

LOL That reminds me of years ago (like as in 25 when I was a teen), the neighbours built a granny-flat and mum commented on "how nice they are to do that" She got really miffed when I said "well don't hold your breath waiting to live in my backyard!" I would rip HER head off!

DP must have noticed I was in the mood for a kill and has been extra helpful

liljay thats sooooo funny. Your DP should give mine lessons ! Mine dropped himself right in it by repeating contents of a text message sent to him, to the kids......And, he wonders why I am more p....d than I was before - DUH. Contents of a text are for the intended recipient only.

This hormonal thing is NUTS. I haven't suffered with PMT for YEARS. I did in my 20's, but it got better and better with each pregnancy, and by the time I'd had my last little darling, GONE. But now......hang on to your hats....OMG!!!!!

above post was from 7/01

Have been on Remifemin for now 3 weeks.
Can't be sure but I don't feel my usual brain fog
Have got tell tale PMS symptoms, and after another bout of thrush, (blood tests, urine test & swabs were OK)
am on Diflucan every week for 4 weeks and now using Micreme H, plus Acigel again 2x a week.
Symptoms on a scale of 1-10 are at about 2-3.
Will see if this new action plan prevents a flare up.

In my next life I'm coming back as a man

I did laugh Linzi32. In theory I would but... I certainly won't be.... I'm too in touch with my FEELINGS to come back as a man !

you make some headway with your current regime. Life is tough enough without this BS, honestly. Middle age means stuck in the middle between growing children and ageing parents. I admire you for building a Granny flat to accomodate your parents. We have offered to accomodate my Mother, but she won't hear of it.

Anyway, back to topic....I had the most horrific ovualtion pain I have EVER had a week ago. Def. that as I have had it before, but nowhere near as severe. This time, both sides (usually one) and it actually hurt me to walk at times as the jolt of each step was like OMFG !

And just when I thought I was getting off quite lightly.

I'd rather have menopause

Yep, on point, me too !

but wouldn't it be cool to be able to wee standing up and not have to pull your britches down...?

Yeah that and....

well, not alot more...

(save all the perks that go with being male in a still sexist/ageist society)

Seriously though, I wouldn't want to be a man. I do enjoy being a woman, but this menopause is B.S

Does anyone know if the 32 listed symptoms cease and desist once you have been through the 12 months of no periods, and are therefore "post-menopausal" ??????

It didn't work that way for my sister, but I am not following the same pattern as her anyway.

I understand the peri-menopausal stage can last for up to 10 years (oh, joy) , but are the hard yards over once you get through menopause per se ?????

I'd hate to have a part of my body with an uncontrollable mind of its own Imagine! At least as a woman we can ogle all we like!

OK so you've persuaded me not to come back as a man


feeling so good so far with GP's plan of attack, and almost a month on Remfimen I swear it's making a difference.

So happy for you Linzi32.

And...I love this thread. It's like our own version of 24/7 take 2....

I am alot happier since getting the opportunity to talk to DH about my symptoms and whats going on with me and how this makes me FEEL.....

Life is so GD crazy, we hardly ever get the chance to have a private conversation uninteruppted....(and that, believe you me is more frustrating than coitus interruptus.... )

So....I am feeling better about things too. And will be even more relieved when my colposcopy is over and done with tomorrow and the results are in.

oh yes I'm all for ogling!

I hear you on the not being able to talk properly without being interrupted. sheesh, such a pain sometimes. I'm sure that sometimes DP and I barely speak two words to each during a normal weekday.

Camom, how did it go today?

Linzi, great to hear the Remfimen is working. I don't know what it is, is it a HRT treatment?

Yay for remfimen!

I'm actually enjoying AF while I have it - the only time I don't seem to be horribly hot, itchy and irritated!

What, you don't like mum mum mum mum mum muuuuum!? What sort of mother are you!

Oh and hope all went okay for you today Camom!

Thanks liljay. There was a patch of abnormal cells so a punch biopsy was required. (And it is such a lie it doesn't hurt )
Went to bed feeling very sorry for myself with the worst cramps I have had in years. My last biopsy was no where near as bad. (Mind you, that was before......maybe my bits are just getting old and more sensitive )

Probably no biggie, but will be relieved to get the results.

The Doc was surprised when I told her how long I had been having symptoms for, but as she said, for some people 'averages' don't apply, and I have certainly spent my life being one of those !

Can I join this happy group please?

I have hormone problems - I think it is more likely a hormone imbalance than peri-menopause but so many of the symptoms above describe me so I can totally sympathise I'm only 34 and been like this for about 18 months now - kicked in about 6 months after DD2 was born.

I feel like I have 1-2 decent weeks per month. All my stuff kicks in at ovulation. It has been heaps worse than at the moment but part of the improvement was cos I took provera for a while (artificial progesterone) - I've been off it for a little while now so will see how I go. Have also lost about 7.5 kg since I first went to the doctor so that should be helping also. My symptoms are really aching legs (to the point that I cannot sleep but these are much better of late), feeling really angry and then being very teary, at the moment it is kind of feeling almost numb mixed with a bit sad, bloating around my middle, thrush like symptoms before my period (I think this went while I was on provera but is back now that I'm not taking it - never end up needing to take anything as once AF arrives everything returns back to normal - the feeling it a bit itchy and like I have one thousand small cracks/splits on my vulva area, never internal), bad memory these day. There will be more that I can't think of for now. When I first went to my GP she said that it def sounded like a hormone imbalance, wasn't getting the rise in progesterone that women normally get once they ovulate - I googled it at the time and that sounded right. She put me on Provera and I had some blood tests done too (never had hormones checked though). The provera was blardy amazing, made me feel so much better is all aspect but esp emotionally. Then it kind of stopped working and I started gettng irregular periods. She increase dthe dose further but didn't really sort it out so I have stopped it - I think it is linked with breast cancer too so I'm a bit concerned about taking it. So, I've been focussing on losing weight and hoping like hell that weight loss will sort it all out but thinking it probably won't. I should go back to my GP but I'm kind of lost wondering waht she can do. Have considered taking something herbal for it (did use femzone for about 3 months with no improvement). libido = zero (maybe even negative on that one). I feel quite alone in all of this actually which really sucks.

I have a history of fibroids and had 2 removed in between having each of my girls. Had a scan last year when my periods became irregular but that didn't show up anything.

I really should make an appt to see my GP again.

Wuz and welcome to our hormone filled fun time!