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#2103102 - 27/10/10 11:47 AM Re: tummy problems I think? [Re: wizz851]
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I'd stop the solids and see if it settles down. If this happens again when you re-start solids, then you know it is that. I did 1 week with a new solid to begin with too - did 2 weeks of 1-2tsp of baby pear first, then a week on carrot, then a week on orange kumara etc. She has having on a couple of tsp for the first 6 weeks I would say.

It doesn't seem like he will cope with a doseage decrease anytime soon frown

Did your GP give him a once over? Just wondering if he is in fact sick. DD got the slightest cold, the a cough which would cause her to vomit. When I finally took her to the doctor she had tonsilitis. SHe too was arching back while feeding and not feeding well at all.

WHat a bummer!

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#2103133 - 27/10/10 12:40 PM Re: tummy problems I think? [Re: wuz]
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Yeah I think Ill stop the solids untill he gets better. Yeah the dr checked his throat and ears. They were all good. I guess its just waiting it out now untill the worst passes. I remember with cassie when we would have agreat patch and then all of a sudden she would go down hill and we just had to wait it out and eventually she came right. Its just frustrating when he was doing so well. I think Ill give it a week and if there is no improvement even off the solids Ill take him back to the paed. Man its expensive sigh
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#2103149 - 27/10/10 01:12 PM Re: tummy problems I think? [Re: wizz851]
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Hugs its always 2 steps forward and one back with reflux,as wuz said stop soilds and when you start do it very slowly. We had real issues starting solids to now at 17 months shes great apart from when she has a flare up.
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#2104126 - 28/10/10 10:52 PM Re: tummy problems I think? [Re: rosemichelle]
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Took me a while to catch up on this thread.

Maybe give him a couple of days without solids and then restart with just rice. Add low salicylate veges like potato, swede, leek, celery first. I agree with the doctor about adding the kumara when you get back around to that to the rice as it will dilute it and make it more tolerable. It is a really good food and sometimes well tolerated with GORD.

Another shake here in Christchurch and time for bed.
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#2104165 - 29/10/10 06:37 AM Re: tummy problems I think? [Re: Roz]
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Thanks Roz, I have kept him off the solids for a few days and he has really improved. So Ill try again with the rice and some low salicylate veges and even the more digestiable ones.

I dont know how you guys are surving with all those shakes.
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#2114848 - 16/11/10 04:05 PM Re: tummy problems I think? [Re: wizz851]
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How are you going? Have you tried some veges again? Any success?
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#2119734 - 24/11/10 11:57 AM Re: tummy problems I think? [Re: Roz]
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Hi
Yes tried the veges again and he happily took them. but went down hill pretty quickly again with the choking, bad cough. This doesnt happen when he is eating...its hour after. But in the last couple of weeks he has gotten alot better so have been sticking to simple foods like pear, carrot. The problem Im having now though is he wont open his mouth to take them so I have to really try and get him to smile and slip it im. He gets very distressed and doesnt seem happy to have it. He is 7mnths now and Im a bit worried that he wont take solids. But Im guessing he will if he is hungry. He certainly doesnt have a weight issue as he is very big. On the occasions I do get him to take solids he gags and the whole lot including his milk feed comes straigt back up. So we are doing it slowly and I make sure I offer him solids atleats once a day to get him use to them
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#2119894 - 24/11/10 04:30 PM Re: tummy problems I think? [Re: wizz851]
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Definitely keep up with the solids despite gagging. They have to learn. Don't worry too much about variety of foods as long as they progress through the stages/textures.

http://www.cryingoverspiltmilk.co.nz/Food/FoodandReflux.htm

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#2119943 - 24/11/10 05:21 PM Re: tummy problems I think? [Re: Roz]
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the gagging is not the problem, its getting it into him which is limiting his progress with solids. he just wont open his mouth.
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#2124028 - 02/12/10 11:32 AM Re: tummy problems I think? [Re: wizz851]
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DD2 was very gaggy as well which made it quite hard to progress through the textures but it changed quite rapidly around 9 months and, a month later, she is eating family meals, easily spits food out that is too bg for her to swallow etc. So, I think, like you say, the getting to happily eat is the issue (and just keep stuff really thin for now - is he ok with the baby pear in the jars etc, that is very thin). You could try feeding him while he is in a bouncer looking at toys (i.e. distracted). Or give him a squeeky toy/favourite toy to play with while feeding. If he has one taste and that is all he wants then I'd just leave it at that. You need to keep it really stress free and I reckon he will come around, so totally back off if he is getting upset. With DD2, I just slotted in her solids time to basically coincide with us eating which I think worked heaps better as I wasn't constantly trying to feed her and it doesn't become all stressy. She would sit for quite a while and I'd just put a little bit in now and then. She got the meal time/soocial side of eating while sitting there too (in highchair or on my knee). Good luck smile

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#2126753 - 07/12/10 04:26 PM Re: tummy problems I think? [Re: wuz]
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HI Wuz

Well poor flynn has had a tummy bug since last tuesday so we have made no progress with solids. Im starting to get stressed out about it as he just wont take them. He certainly is a well covered little boy so there is no issues there. But Im just wondering when he will decided to eat. Little monkey. I guess he will eat when he is ready. Ive got so much frozen baby food as Ive tried everything lol
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#2126890 - 07/12/10 09:24 PM Re: tummy problems I think? [Re: wizz851]
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My DS3 was late to food. I had been trying since around 6months old but he was well into eight months before he was eating properly and even then he was only eating two meals a day and quite small quantities. I did move him through the texture stages though - so at around 10-11 months I intro'd plenty of finger foods and also made sure other foods were full of texture (soft lumps in kumara, millet flour which is quite grainy etc). DS was also a big gagger and a big food refuser - he really ate very little before 20 months. This improved after we got his tonsils out (at 20 months) - not sure if he was ready to grow out of it or it was the tonsils whaaat . Just be patient and persistant smile
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#2126978 - 08/12/10 08:25 AM Re: tummy problems I think? [Re: 3boys]
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thanks threeboys, I guess I just be patient. Im lucky if he eats 4tsp a day and he is nearly 8mnths. Everyone comments on how big he is and what do I feed him lol they are shocked when I say he is only really formula fed.
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#2127205 - 08/12/10 02:23 PM Re: tummy problems I think? [Re: wizz851]
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He will get there wizz.Both my girls alwasy lost interest in food when sick too so hopefully he will get back into it as he feels better.

A colleague of mine said his little one was terrible with solids, gagging etc etc. FInally someone actually looked in his mouth and said he had huge tonsils and they were suprised that he actually slept as well as he did etc. He would not eat purees etc but was ok with some finger food. Improved dramatically when the tonsils came out but he still has issues over mash and sloppy type food (purely sychological at this point) and is of primary school age. Anyway, jsut a little sotry for ya smile I was starting to worry about DD2 and tonsils due to her gagging but it came right really quickly around the 9 month mark.

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#2128306 - 10/12/10 04:42 PM Re: tummy problems I think? [Re: wuz]
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Just keep on trying and it doesn't need to be you feeding him. Offer the food, let him play with it - my MIL would be horrified - and was! LOL. Its all about experimenting. If the fingers go in the food and then in the mouth, that is all good. What about small cubes of well cooked foods, tolerated crackers etc with mashed veges to dip them into and suck off. It is not about volume. Its about texture and exploration.

From eight months you should be offering solids first, formula second and I would do this for three meals a day. I know it seems a waste of time but just put a little out and keep your expectations low. I totally agree also about trying to have baby with you at the table for mealtimes, and making it a family time. What about if you are eating some of the same food?
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